You guys said I was wrong... and you were right!

03 Th05, 2020
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I decided to take one more shot at getting the amazing sound that I was after with my Shure SM7B but this time I made changes based solely on what the audience suggested... and it turned out great!
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  • im not gonna use a cloudlifter, will it work

    ShirtyBackupShirtyBackup4 ngày trước
  • its eartrumpet but physical lmao

    ShirtyBackupShirtyBackup4 ngày trước
  • So, how did you plug your Yamahas in to it, Mr Jay? Respect.

    AdministratorAdministrator9 ngày trước
  • Yo why jay look like a fucking zaddy

    Morgan ByrneMorgan Byrne12 ngày trước
  • Hey any sound gurus know what would happen if you used a cloud lifter with the goxlr? Would it increase the distance you can be from the mic? Or just cause clipping?

    ChrisChris16 ngày trước
  • Hmmm there isn't much of a difference between this and voice mod. It just looks cooler and is physical. But it does seem pretty useful.

    GRIPPPYGRIPPPY17 ngày trước
  • Respect to this man

    King EvolKing Evol21 ngày trước
  • Hey man, very cool! How do you have the go XlR cam overlay with the smooth corners? Looks great

    Robbie SkoRobbie Sko22 ngày trước
  • It is almost like he is dumb. He has fallen pretty far

    EnDeR WigginEnDeR Wiggin24 ngày trước
  • You're still an audio newb but with slightly more advanced tools - it's like you upgraded from an athlon xp to a amd fx in 2020. After that explanation of how you think a compressor works you should be legally banned from giving mix/master advice.

    Nght CaptnNght Captn26 ngày trước
  • Do you use any cloudlifter ?

    LiryqueLiryque26 ngày trước
  • You can be 6 in away from microphone no problem

    whisper INCwhisper INC27 ngày trước
  • Go bandrew

    whisper INCwhisper INC27 ngày trước
  • Using the SM7B on a GoXLR without a cloudlifter is absolutely fine. The pre amp is very good, I've seen many streamers without it

    MrNat916777MrNat91677727 ngày trước
  • You can make all those fart noises and stuff with your computer just as well. I can't see paying $500.00 for the goXLR 4.

    Area4AM True Crime MediaArea4AM True Crime Media29 ngày trước
  • i can't believe you bought a goxlr bc the audience told you to. there was no need for that. but anyway it's a good setup

    Bernardo ZirpoliBernardo ZirpoliTháng trước
  • GoXLR is ok for streamers but if you are a musician I wouldnt suggest it.

    Tim EverhartTim EverhartTháng trước
  • I that a Inwin 928?

    Drax MordanteDrax MordanteTháng trước
  • Just bought this mic myself. A lot videos saying you need a cloud lifter, but you actually don't to be honest it produces great sound without it. You sound great in this video jaytwocents.

    DarkArchonDarkArchonTháng trước
  • I'm late for this party tbh but here are my two cents (haha get it?). The GO XLR has not solved your issue as you have reported. Your proximity to the microphone has got you 98% of the way there. Watching both videos you went from 2ft away from the mic in the previous video to 2 inches away in this video. I feel you could have accomplished neigh on the exact same result for $0 extra dollars with free software and the proximity change. But kudos for looking back at yourself and being critical. Audio is a world in which we are constantly learning.

    Liam TaylorLiam TaylorTháng trước
  • Did he use the cloud lifter it’s probably a dumb question but idk how this stuff works

    7teeennn7teeennnTháng trước
  • It only has one XLR input...

    AegisHyperonAegisHyperonTháng trước
  • What you are doing isn't really proximity effect, but sort of. Yes if you swallow the mic you will get a proximity effect. However that mic isn't as bad with it as other mics are. The problem you had is I am sure others told you is that mic just isn't designed to do what you were trying to do. That is a "dynamic" mic with a very low sensitivity. It is designed to be close to your mouth and to have good rejection for ambient noise. Most dynamic mics with that rejection pattern are going to require you to get close to it. Like a sm58 or something like that. If you want the mic farther away you need a boom or shotgun mic designed for that. Or a condenser mic with better senitivity. Problem with one of those is they pick up a LOT. So you would need a fairly quiet room to use them in or it will pick up all the ambient noise. As for all the stuff your interface came with you can get most of that for free anyway. Nothing you showed there can't be done with reaper or OBS with reaper plug ins or other vsts. And there are any number of interfaces you can use that are pretty good ranging from 80 bucks into the thousands. I personally use a Focusrite 2i2 3rd gen but its pretty basic. The one you have is pretty cool if you want the extra mixing features and stuff like that. You did wast your money on a cloud lifter though. They simply are not needed and don't really improve anything. You can just raise your levels using software before or after you record it or before you stream it. If you are getting -20 some db coming in from your pre amp to your software it isn't a big deal. Just boost it in the software to where you want it. It will actually make your noise gate work better to be honest. I intentionally use a slightly low input level just so I have more headroom to work with stuff. I just have a pre amp or gain setting as the last thing in my vst chain to make it what I want it to be.

    Paul MohrPaul MohrTháng trước
  • Hey Jay.... my mind is BLOWN! I was considering the Rodecaster Pro for livestreaming my podcast and radio show but after watching this I have changed my mind. QUESTION! Regarding the threshold features on the mic settings. (and this is what blew me away as a possibility) I do audiobook narration for ACX. They require a noise floor of no greater than -60db. Am I understanding this correctly, that if I were to set my threshold to -60db it would essentially guarantee me the proper noise floor? In other words... it would regulate my room noise? Thanks again for the video and I hope to hear your answer. Thanks!

    Dan Viens, The Dan Cave PodcastDan Viens, The Dan Cave PodcastTháng trước
  • So this set up is the cloud lifter and the GoXLR, no more Scarlet 2i2? Or what is the actual full set up?

    Nate PaceNate PaceTháng trước
  • audio engineer here! - when you "live monitor" you are only hearing the "Direct Input". Meaning you are only hearing your microphones signal at the input, before it is routed into the software. Now some audio interface cards will work differently....so im not sure why you'd hear all the changes you make except the compressor? maybe its a bug in the software

    KaotixMusicKaotixMusic2 tháng trước
  • It is so much irony, that you complained about wasting money on that microphone, just to be happy about wasting 500 bucks on top. Ahaha... 😂 But that is just my opinion on it. Let me explain why: Your old audio interface - if you used the inline preamp you had alongside it - was perfectly fine running that mic and everything you needed was some free software to do some post processing. That is basically what you did with the software of the GoXLR. As for the extra features.... well that’s another topic. I have a similar set of features for about half the money, not counting some sound toys, like the voice pitcher or adding of reverb with some knobs at hand. But in exchange I got something much more useful (to me) and that is even more channels tor the sound. Eight input channels with up to five microphones, tho right now I never connect more than two. Instead I use the extra channels alongside virtual cables to have five audio channels for whatever sounds on my PC and prepared for adding in even a capture card as well. I have yet to add a daw controller to have hardware controls, but since most daw controllers give you 8 faders as it is, for like 120 bucks or so. Getting it all in a single sleek box, albeit without 2 of the audio channels for PC sounds, is arguably worth the premium.... to some. I for one prefer to have separate devices and pieces of hard- and software to change up things, if I’m not happy with what I got. That is obviously not possible here. But yea... I kinda get why so many people, who put the trigger on that box, are happy with their new toy. Going from using an audio interface with no knowledge to this solution presenting you with all the stuff you need, never knew you needed and more stuff, you don’t need, has to be fun.

    MichaelW1980MichaelW19802 tháng trước
  • Yeah, I agree with others...you're a good dude for being human, and learning from mistakes. Glad you got what you want in the end!

    Brandon JozsaBrandon Jozsa2 tháng trước
  • Good to know! Im just lookin at the background too! That black and blue theme build! Its sexy! 😎🔥

    JKicks Type1 Video Clips, Vlogs, Streaming soon!JKicks Type1 Video Clips, Vlogs, Streaming soon!2 tháng trước
  • Can anyone answer my question, lets say your in a VC with your friends in Discord, If I use the sound effects on the GoXLR will they also hear it? or is it only for streams and stuff

    WhoThatKiddWhoThatKidd2 tháng trước
  • 5:51 I know of a youtuber who sounds justy like that

    Francisco QuiñonesFrancisco Quiñones2 tháng trước
  • who thought of wade when they heard waaa waaa waaa waaaaaa

    LIL SQUISHLIL SQUISH2 tháng trước
  • total respect Jay

    santosh jammisantosh jammi2 tháng trước
  • Mad respect for admitting where you were wrong. That MIC is awesome when used properly. To be fair, the Scarlet devices are great, but they're meant to be recorded using ASIO into a DAW such as Reaper or Cakewalk where you'll have your choice of VST options. It can then output that produced sound via the outputs or you can simply record it directly through the ASIO. I use it to record my band and with my laptop for live performances and midi-controlled effects. If you wanted to use it like you'd planned, you'd have to open the DAW every time you used the MIC and apply the appropriate EQ, then use something like ASIO4ALL to map the output to a virtual output and use that as your audio source for OBS. I don't find it practical outside of either recording or performing live while recording. The GoXLR is a great choice to get the most important functionality you want.

    mph8ermph8er2 tháng trước
  • YOU NEED A LOW CUT to at least 150hz - much too much bass. Very annoying to listen to. And teamspeak/dischord will sound like you put the mic in a box of towels and close it - muffles as hell.

    Bratislav MetulskiBratislav Metulski2 tháng trước
  • I think I've done all of these with equalizer APO, cheap mic, cheap mixer and voicemod. Not more than 150 bucks. Sure it's not as convenient as the device ..(The setup and research itself takes days). But hey, when you don't have 2 million subscribers....

    Outside The BoxOutside The Box3 tháng trước
  • Where did you put the gain level to? Are you using the cloudlifter?

    Tobias WesterboerTobias Westerboer3 tháng trước
  • Great video, great attitude to the situation but that De-esser level makes you sound like you've got a mad lisp

    Rob WhitmoreRob Whitmore3 tháng trước
  • Bought both same SHURE mic and GoXLR a few months ago. Thanks to this video I'll hook them up and dive in.

    Strato CrewzrStrato Crewzr3 tháng trước
  • Hey Jay, thanks for this great video. I'm about to get exactly this setup. But since there dosen't come any XLR Cable with the SMB7 I was wondering, which cables you're using. There's XLR for a few bucks and there's XLR for a diamond ring :D Did you look for any specific features? I guess I will pick one from the mid price section because it won't be in "mobile" use and has not to be that flexible. As I thought your sound seemed nice I wanted to ask which one you got. Yeah... bunch of lines for a cable question... :D Thanks

    Patrick FrankenPatrick Franken3 tháng trước
  • Hifiman Sundara?

    Jessey TurnerJessey Turner3 tháng trước
    • and hd 6xx? i want a video of all your headphones!!!

      Jessey TurnerJessey Turner3 tháng trước
  • or you could like... use loopback and garageband/ logic/ etc. and save $320?

    MichaelMichael3 tháng trước
  • the reason your hearing crackling is because the live monitor is meant to give you your true sound. No processing from the computer. I’m not entirely sure how GoXLR works, but if it’s anything like actual monitoring on a preamp, you should just be hearing your dry signal.

    rebeltugrebeltug3 tháng trước
  • i like your sound without the de-esser a lot more. It sounds more human and realistic, big fan. im not hating, that’s just my two centz (lol pun)

    rebeltugrebeltug3 tháng trước
  • SM7B is one of the highest rated mics in the world...if you can't get it to sound good it's 100% user error.

    FixItInPostFixItInPost3 tháng trước
  • GoXLR looks so good at first glance, but I really wish they had thought a little bit harder about audio quality. It's really focused on being a software solution for streamers, which it does _really_ well. However, audio wise, it's not even comparable to to the Scarlett Solo that Jay replaced. GoXLR is the epitome of the "lets just fix it in post" mentality crossed with a healthy dose of "Youre just using it to stream, Twitch is gonna compress it to hell and back anyway". For just a couple extra bucks, they could have upgraded to a decent preamp and added a few 1/4" jacks for quality audio peripherals like headphones or studio monitors. But the big deal breaker for me on the GoXLR was this: If I'm being encouraged to feed all of my audio through the thing, I need it to be able to handle game audio in 5.1. It's 2020, and this device only handles digital streams in stereo, what gives? Was USB 3.0 too expensive? This whole product reeks of cost-cutting. On the subject of cost-cutting: The Mini version. I get cutting out the voice changer and sampler. Motorized sliders are cool but aren't really necessary. But why did they have to go and cut out the little LCDs for the ASSIGNABLE sliders?

    tippyc2tippyc23 tháng trước
  • Wait, Jay, so how does your current setup look like? SM7B->Cloud Microphone Uplifter->GoXLR->Scarlett Solo DAC->PC? *Confused*

    Ola EliassonOla Eliasson3 tháng trước
  • Oooh, I need the voice of God for my company Zoom meetings.

    Ed MoralesEd Morales3 tháng trước
  • You dont need a 500 dollar knob to mute somebody in discord just add a keybind to deafen lmao??

    SanitySanity4 tháng trước
  • Too much low end on your voice, distractingly muddy

    Trent WhitingTrent Whiting4 tháng trước
  • Nice he actually admits his mistake. Good job

    VovicalVovical4 tháng trước
  • Best tut on this ive seen so far, thanks a lot Jayz

    Mr FairyCakeMr FairyCake4 tháng trước
  • Side tone?

    Nathan RochaNathan Rocha4 tháng trước
  • SM7B is a workhorse. It's used for broadcast and studio work; I use it for metal vocals and guitar cabinets. At 7:53: You're probably listening to the direct monitor sound in the headphones, this is the sound from the microphone without any effects. Direct monitor sound is for recording without latency, which is critical for performances that need to be on time, such as a studio recording. I don't own a GoXLR but you should be able to also listen to your mic output with FX if you desire.

    Hugo GonzalezHugo Gonzalez4 tháng trước
  • where can i find a GOXLR for actual retail price ? even your amazon link was over 100$ above the retail price. EVERYONE is out of stock

    GarretGarret4 tháng trước
  • This is my set up. Its pretty dope!!!

    King MookaKing Mooka4 tháng trước
  • Bro you're awesome af!!!

    King MookaKing Mooka4 tháng trước
  • Behringer X18 one of the best investments I ever made, can do the compression, de-essing, gate, etc. Also Reaper, combined with it can do things like dynamic noise reduction and any VST effect you can imagine. I do run a cloud lifter on my SM7B as well but its not needed. But it can do everything the GoXLR can do and more for cheaper with more connectivity. 18 channels that can be routed and controlled. If you are not using it be sure to get the ASIO plugin for OBS so you can use ASIO directly from your mixer.

    Vicious ComputersVicious Computers4 tháng trước
  • About the crackling coming from the mic monitoring just go to GoXLR app > Mixer and then all the way to the right and lower the mic monitoring level. It happens with me using HD660s and other open back headphones but when I use closed Headphone it never happened

    ohmyTalalohmyTalal4 tháng trước
  • 10:12 that had me laughing so much! I'd love to watch that stream, please tell me it's on VIworld somewhere!

    Tumultuous TenetsTumultuous Tenets4 tháng trước
  • What's the boom arm by the way?

    CloudFireCloudFire4 tháng trước
    • Its a microphone stand

      Jake JohnsonJake Johnson4 tháng trước
  • But without the goxlr whats the benefit of the Shure over the yeti at the much higher price point?

    AnderAnder4 tháng trước
  • Great Videos Jay. That is a cool computer you have. What brand is that?

    DJ PaulieDJ Paulie4 tháng trước
  • jay just to let you know the mini is bus powered and dont have enough power to run the the desser and the 4 extra bands of mic eq

    uPimppiuPimppi4 tháng trước
  • What mic are you using for the first 3:45mins?

    Kevin GaultKevin Gault4 tháng trước
  • What do you mean you just endure compressed sound for monitoring? 7:49 Cant you bypass it when you do the show and turn it on for the recorded session?

    Lenny Hyungsuk KimLenny Hyungsuk Kim4 tháng trước
  • Jay did you have any problems installing the goxlr app?

    Dozer 456Dozer 4564 tháng trước
  • Yeah 900 bucks ahhh.... hell no.

    Aaron BerrettAaron Berrett4 tháng trước
  • Your vocal mix is truly something else... not in a good way tho, seriously. Source: Am in full-sail audio engineering university

    Tom FritschiTom Fritschi4 tháng trước
  • the power hungry sm7b leads yet another down the "I aint got enough gain' path.......you have now gone down the pro audio rabbit hole, room treatment, mic pre's, compressors, have fun, bring lotsa money....wait till ya hear that mic, on a 1073 Neve, all class A, with full educator eq, then hit it with an 1176 compressor, into a stellar dac, that even makes my nasty voice sound like butter......proof positive you can bottleneck a mic....

    chippster stephenschippster stephens5 tháng trước
  • Turns up Aryll Fae 'YESSS!!" 'This song's dumb.'

    noyernoyer5 tháng trước
  • but my guy is still over hitting the volume so its being 'cut' lowering the quality..

    Twitch DemonsprayzTwitch Demonsprayz5 tháng trước
  • Omg, long term goal for streaming lol. I want it so bad, I don't really care about the mic, but I really want the GoXLR, all immature computer nerds should have this.

    RevanJager GamingRevanJager Gaming5 tháng trước
  • If you pull the CloudLifter, You are going to notice that you are not going to get as much clean gain on the SM-7B. The mic out of the gate is -57dB so you would need to boost your gain to 100 to make it to a good level, but if you do that it's going to induce line noise. Test it out... I think you'll find it sounds better with the CloudLifter. You sound great by the way. Bonus points for you to admit you were wrong! That's a hard thing to do sometimes and I respect your for it!

    PatrickPatrick5 tháng trước
  • Excellent video.. The sound quality is great.. My question for you is did you have to purchase a cloudlifter to boost the gain?

    EJP EntertainmentEJP Entertainment5 tháng trước
  • You absolutely need a cloudlifter for a dynamic microphone, even with the GOXLR. If you remove it from your input chain, you will have serious gain staging issues. This is why I choose to use a condenser over a dynamic mic, but to be fair, I mix vocals for music so it makes more sense for me to have one in my personal use case. It also works great for voice work and streaming, but somebody who is streaming only and not making music, a dynamic mic is probably the better choice. Regardless (and I know I'm late for this update), I'm glad you got it figured out homie. Much respect.

    Hazy JHazy J5 tháng trước
  • Jay, it's cool for me to see you learn about this stuff cause I go to a production school and I am trying to triple major in Live Sound, Sound Design for Film, and Audio Production and Engineering. I think its cool that you are getting a short glimpse of how audio is done because even though I am a gamer at heart, audio is my passion.

    Purific RadioPurific Radio5 tháng trước
  • I saw somebody literally using it backwards like back to from and all I said was Retard

    UsernameUsername5 tháng trước
  • Bit late to the comments ... holy crap! The GoXLR is over $1700 in Australia! Far out. Looks great but no way can I afford that. We can't even get the mini here. Grrr!

    Ben MilesBen Miles5 tháng trước
  • I'm not even a JayzTwoCents subscriber, but the amount of videos I got recommended to me about "this youtuber was wrong about his mic" was crazy. Seems like VIworld decided to inform the entire tech community about Jayz and his microphone.

    Fredrik ByströmFredrik Byström5 tháng trước
  • GIVE ME YOUR SM7b

    Joel WilliamsJoel Williams5 tháng trước
  • 8:34 song?

    xd Pondaxd Ponda5 tháng trước
  • Good for you man "Thumbs up". Personally I was triggered by your video because it could have mislead people into not buying the SM7B. But yes Distance and angle is a thing with mics.

    Mister NobodyMister Nobody5 tháng trước
  • theres no need for you to monitor your microphone, if anything it distracts me a bit if i hear myself talking

    DullaDulla5 tháng trước
  • Get a cloud lifter

    FlixFlix5 tháng trước
  • way too much bass sound like crap

    Dave WhiteDave White5 tháng trước
  • You sound a million times better. I think you might going just a touch hard on some of the processing though, especially the compressor; consider backing off just a little bit. The SM7 is a great mic, doesn't need much! Also, check out one of the most popular audio/microphone VIworldrs, Podcastage, if you really want to take a deep dive into some of this stuff. His videos are GOLD.

    aerob1033aerob10335 tháng trước
  • question tho, if i want this setup, do i still need the cloudlifter?

    EzozEzoz5 tháng trước
  • you can also use a digital audio splitter if u wanna listen to someone on discord and not have ur viewers hear them on stream, essentially ur creating another audio device for your output so that you can route one of them to discord and one to ur everything else and use the one thats not routed to discord for ur output device that your stream picks up. so that you will be able to hear ur friends because both devices are connected to one set of headphones.

    XaniraXanira5 tháng trước
  • I mean your original advice about using a cheaper usb mic with software eq is still extremely valuable. You were right that it can give you great sound and is very east to set up

    Eisenhower303Eisenhower3035 tháng trước
  • Super glad to see you got it sorted with the 7b. It's such a killer mic when you use it the right way.

    Trent HollingsworthTrent Hollingsworth5 tháng trước
  • Good recovery.

    Max'd OutMax'd Out5 tháng trước
  • watching the audiophile emerge

    cajunstixcajunstix5 tháng trước
  • IMO you shouldn't color an SM7b but it's not my set up so I have no right to say much.

    FaithFaith5 tháng trước
  • GoXLR is cool but for 20% of the cost I use Voicemeeter Banana with the Creative Soundblaster K3+ and get reallllly similar results with my RE20.

    Shane DaunceShane Daunce5 tháng trước
  • Glad you admit your errors. A Cloudlifter (with phantom power) will give you a significant bump in transparent gain, a bit more presence depending on the switch settings on the back of the mic.

    gratefulgrateful5 tháng trước
  • How did u get ur hands on one!?!?! They are sold out everywhere.

    ThermalThermal5 tháng trước
    • Amazon.... ordered it and about 2 weeks later it came... not really magic or anything

      JayzTwoCentsJayzTwoCents5 tháng trước
  • Oooooh motorized sliders. Daaaaamn wait how much is this thing?

    Crypto TonightCrypto Tonight5 tháng trước
    • OH HOLY SHIT 1750? That's a metric fuckton for something that's just a glorified control surface.

      Crypto TonightCrypto Tonight5 tháng trước
  • I think the only really BIG disappointing thing about the Go XLR is that it only has "1" XLR jack. They really screwed the pooch there. It needs 4.

    leeuniverseleeuniverse5 tháng trước
  • GoXLR isn’t that good though tbh

    DevGambitDevGambit5 tháng trước
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