The RTX 3080 Launch can't get any worse... Right? Wrong...

25 Th09, 2020
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The RTX 3080 is the most controversial launch we have seen in a long time... and it continues to spiral out of control. Here is the Article we reference in this video - www.igorslab.de/en/what-real-what-can-be-investigative-within-the-crashes-and-instabilities-of-the-force-rtx-3080-andrtx-3090/
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  • @JayzTwoCents - I am a radio-frequency engineer specializing in RF filter design, and your observation makes total sense. One of things may computer users is that when you have computers with high frequencies, you have radio waves (aka EMC/Noise). The reason the MTCC is that they are capacitors all the way to 10,000 MHz! Those MTCC capacitors are formed to a very controlled RF Filter to keep the noise out of rest of the video card. If you use those larger capacitors, you have no filtering above it's self-resonating frequency, which may be as low as 1200 MHz! As a result, the higher frequency clock signal - and its noise - will get right into the system and that filter is invisible to it. Therefore, that "Boost Clock" is the problem.

    Kevin GaukelKevin Gaukel2 tháng trước
    • @Steven Wilson - you are correct. Unfortunately, the FCC regulations only apply to RF coming from outside the card - not from within.

      Kevin GaukelKevin Gaukel16 ngày trước
    • 5Head ah yes

      Matias DamerMatias DamerTháng trước
    • @Yuuji 9029 people are just being dicks. He literally just said “huh?” Like the shit flew over his head. No request for him to understand or explanation, maybe he doesn’t care to understand or isn’t interested. Just saying that it flew by him. No problem there. When people start piling on about reading comprehension and laziness in that scenario, it’s ironic

      ThreepE0ThreepE0Tháng trước
    • Doesn't the FCC require electronic devices to accept certain amounts of interferance and still function poperly?

      Steven WilsonSteven WilsonTháng trước
    • @JayzTwoCents cani plz buy a graphics card from you im having a hard time buying one

      Vannesa RiedVannesa RiedTháng trước
  • Hello! TWO questions: 1) What is more stable/better, MSI RTX 3080 VENTUS, or ASUS RTX 3080 TUF ? 2) How to undervolt the GPU ? THANKS !!

    Google userGoogle userNgày trước
  • Hello! TWO questions: 1) What is more stable/better, MSI RTX 3080 VENTUS, or ASUS RTX 3080 TUF ? 2) How to undervolt the GPU ? THANKS !!

    Google userGoogle userNgày trước
  • Now I'm just so fucking happy that I bought a 3070 for my first PC instead of a 3080.... jesus crist..

    DaggerCatzDaggerCatzNgày trước
  • Nowadays as the world is kind of rushed in middle age generation. I highly recommend to order a ready and tested PC setup with a proper warranty and service instead of building one.

    RedienRedienNgày trước
  • evga is best

    denoginator1denoginator14 ngày trước
  • Hi, what happend? did NVIDIA worked on this issue? any news about it? thanks! R

    MrRichieHKMrRichieHK6 ngày trước
    • @Jesse Espinoza Thanks mate

      MrRichieHKMrRichieHK12 giờ trước
    • Turns out it was just a software issue and it was fixed with a driver update. So everyone was losing their minds for nothing

      Jesse EspinozaJesse Espinoza5 ngày trước
  • I always wait like 6 months after stuff are being released, anything you can think of Guess this time this paid off

    InfarlockInfarlock7 ngày trước
  • are u sad about the ps5??or what

    angelo silvestriangelo silvestri8 ngày trước
  • good information vid! :) but i would love to have a rtx3000 or AMD 6000 series in my PC to see if it will crash tbh :)

    munta1967munta19678 ngày trước
  • It makes sense to me, so..... does that mean I can come to your birthday party? :D

    UK Tech NoobUK Tech Noob8 ngày trước
  • Great content

    Luigi RinaldiLuigi Rinaldi9 ngày trước
  • Hey @JayzTwoCents its been about a month now. Do you know if these problems have been resolved or are these problem cards still being sold? If so is there a listing of cards to stay away from?

    Ian PaxsonIan Paxson10 ngày trước
    • Turns out it was just a software issue and it was fixed with a driver update.

      Jesse EspinozaJesse Espinoza5 ngày trước
  • Will those problems appear in 3070 GPUs? Or the power delivery isn't that much in those cards to affect performance.

    Thomas KoukasThomas Koukas10 ngày trước
  • Thanks for sharing this!

    Business GuideBusiness Guide10 ngày trước
  • Embarrassing. Nvidia lost me on this launch.

    JocknmystyleJocknmystyle11 ngày trước
  • GTX 970 all over again...

    Johnny BJohnny B11 ngày trước
  • I been saving money for 3 years and can almost buy me a beginner gaming PC.

    Jorge SernaJorge Serna13 ngày trước
    • @Jorge Serna I think our ideas of a budget build are pretty different lol.. anyway congrats on the amd stock profit.

      Salt MakerSalt Maker3 ngày trước
    • @Salt Maker My ps4 and xbox1 have maybe 30hrs on each since release. I ended up buying a budget PC 3700x CPU with 5700xt for $999.98....My AMD stock made me $1700 this year so used that money for the pc.

      Jorge SernaJorge Serna3 ngày trước
    • You're better off with a ps5.. budget builds are never worth it.

      Salt MakerSalt Maker3 ngày trước
  • poop

    Sammy HawthorneSammy Hawthorne13 ngày trước
  • I have a new ASUS 3080 TUF and it's been stable, so far. I ran a 3Dmark that caused it to crash (blue screen). Other than that my first week has been fairly positive.

    Bruce BeeBruce Bee14 ngày trước
  • in short : good cards = evga , FE , Asus , msi bad cards = gigabyte , zotac , colorful

    Panamaniacs 2011Panamaniacs 201114 ngày trước
    • bad cards = none youtubers with fake news = JayzTwoCents It was fixed with a driver a long time ago.

      KinGzeDKKinGzeDK10 ngày trước
  • can we get a lost of the one's who didnt try to cheat us?

    Nadav BrownNadav Brown15 ngày trước
  • “Silence is a bad thing” - Jay So is doing no research and jumping on something w no research. You’re way smarter than me, but to release a follow up video to this and say “you guys misunderstood me” is just laughable

    Emanuel GjoniEmanuel Gjoni15 ngày trước
  • lol people still butt hurt that they paid to be beta testers for their new tech. Suck it up

    Ethan EkstrandEthan Ekstrand16 ngày trước
  • Jayz, what mic are you using?

    endeavourendeavour16 ngày trước
  • Thanks for this Video. Can anybody tell how much the space is (in mm) between the PCB and the Backplate from the Gigabyte RTX 3080 Gaming OC? I want to apply some Thermalpads Between the Backside of the VRam and the Backplate to turn down the Temperature of my own Card but i dont want to disassemble the Card before i buyed some Pads. Thanks 4 any help Sorry for my bad english, i`ll hope u can understand.

    Tim GrubaTim Gruba17 ngày trước
  • im just now getting in computers n stuff and im a new learner and i just looked at my 2070 zotac gaming card with a death glare, can sombody help out here cause i dont wanna over clock but i dont wanna over clock it my to much Edit: the ending hurt my heart a lil ngl

    LagzLagz18 ngày trước
  • yes, buy my overpriced shirts so i can buy my fourth rtx 380, arrogant pos.

    stephenmartinez1stephenmartinez119 ngày trước
  • 3080 already having problems. I hope all the people who sold there 2080 TI for dirt cheap have a backup card. Lessened learned i hope.

    John KeithJohn Keith21 ngày trước
  • Makes sense. I’ve found that just about everything in life worth doing, is worth doing right. Unfortunately many people in the decision process are only driven by their bonus at the end of the year. Profits will often out way quality. What makes it worse is a lot of people will lie about problems and or not having problems before they have an agenda. It will take time for a real understanding on which units are having the most problems

    BretBret21 ngày trước
  • All of these "gaymers" out there crying out about Clocks, and here I am purposelly undervolting and underclocking pretty much every piece of hardware that I put my hands on, since I learned that I had no major compromise in performance by doing that, matter of fact only benefits. Hilarious... so basically these cards, when underclocked, will perform with no issues right? Fine then.

    Redban loves asiansRedban loves asians22 ngày trước
  • I don't particularly know (or care) what's going on with these NVidia cards, I'm just here out of curiosity because of the video title, since I already made a choice to go for Ryzen 5 APU's anyway. But even then I can't fully outright hate NVidia because over the past 5 or so years they have been better, more functional and more compatible with Linux machines overall, even having "closed source" drivers and so on. AMD had the best hardware, but they were always playing catch up with their own drivers, always lagging behind in the software department. In present day, late 2020, the situation changed, AMD seems to have gotten their shit together, alright, but NVidia still has plenty of good karma to collect at least on my part. They didn't leave Linux users behind, even when they had all the opportunity to do so. Let's hope AMD can make good use of the new shiny throne and not corrupt themselves.

    Redban loves asiansRedban loves asians22 ngày trước
  • Your so right... My msi 3080 is branding by 1815Mhz, thats what i pay for! With boost 2050Mhz, so 235Mhz+. After crash i reduce the Core Clock by 50Mhz and all is fine. Overall a + by 185Mhz more than was msi say's. The next thing is use 3 seperate 8pin cable for the card, and not the Y-cable. Other Cards on 1710Mhz msi on 1815 so 100more as some others... For me is all fine with the 3080.

    issorroneissorrone22 ngày trước
  • All the cards are on stock x it’s show app/ website

    Kassandra RiveraKassandra Rivera23 ngày trước
  • Nvidia has finally prioritized money and status over quality. RIP.

    Daniel NesterenkoDaniel Nesterenko24 ngày trước
  • Has there been an update to the cards since its been a month?

    Melissa petersonMelissa peterson24 ngày trước
  • How is it with rtx 3070? Do you got any recommendations besides the founders edition?

    David RDavid R24 ngày trước
  • Bless ASUS. This issue shouldnt affect them at all.

    North HustlerNorth Hustler25 ngày trước
  • Becoming more glad that the scalpers took everything

    No AhNo Ah25 ngày trước
  • i thought once my 1080 was faulty for the crashes, then I uncovered that my KB didn't supported USB3.0 and this, after some play time, was the cause of the crashes. How did I knew? One day i asked myself "do i really need to plug them on the 3.0 ports?" Since then: no more problems.

    TheIceThornTheIceThorn27 ngày trước
  • Your telling me that each of those capacitors are a dollar each? Yeah that’s extremely expensive when added up!

    IcedElectricIcedElectric27 ngày trước
  • ''Prematurely making a video about how it's this or that, as we've seen it doesn't really help anyone does it? It just creates a whole lot of confusion, misinformation, and it's not worth it to drum up a few quick views'' Hardware Unboxed

    Jason ChuiJason Chui27 ngày trước
  • Guys relax. It was a driver issue that was fixed a couple of days after this video. Linux didn't even have this issue. Just Jay spreading misinformation and not admitting he was wrong. Hardware Unboxed even called Jay out and made him look like a fool for this. Even if available you shouldn't buy a 3000 series now but not because of capacitors but because RDNA2.

    KinGzeDKKinGzeDK27 ngày trước
    • SO TRUE. This FOOL pretends to know everything.

      The Tech LegendThe Tech Legend10 ngày trước
  • Seems it did get worse.... Radeon RX 6000 happened... :D

    DavidTheSuperheroDavidTheSuperhero27 ngày trước
  • Asus is getting the attention it deserves. Been repairing computers for years, and those standard mobos are tough. I change them less than other branded mobos around that computer shops often use. They got issues with mobos and gpus from the past, slow boot, bios clock, gpu fan, etc. But it seems they are improving a lot.

    Yamete KudasaiYamete Kudasai27 ngày trước
  • i bought a KFA2 RTX 2070 that has that problem , the OC from factory is to high , my solution was to reduced the clock frequenze to the card Spec and now works just fine . in my opinion they should not sell OC edition .

    sningo 7777sningo 777728 ngày trước
  • those fanboys where out in force for nvidia and its overpriced under avalible line-up in 2020. Lol

    Mark PenhallMark Penhall28 ngày trước
  • No thanks. I'll keep my EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 ULTRA.

    xTheToolxxTheToolx28 ngày trước
  • I think it's on the AIB. Nvidia gives them a spec for a reason, if they wanna cut corners then it's their own fault

    NebulaNebula28 ngày trước
  • "Old Galax cards" *cries while looking at my 1080 HOF*

    NebulaNebula29 ngày trước
  • who woulda thought they would produce trash .....lol

    johhnyz mokistizsaxajohhnyz mokistizsaxa29 ngày trước
  • This makes me wonder... how expensive can 60 capacitors be? $0.60? $6.00? $60.00?

    Someone ElseSomeone Else29 ngày trước
  • Turns out it was just Windows drivers.

    Yvonne TolentinoYvonne Tolentino29 ngày trước
  • All the pictures ive found of the asus tuf 3080 show it having the cheaper resistors

    D HD H29 ngày trước
  • Those components aren't the expensive parts of the card. But companies will always try to cut production costs. Except the quality companies, but they charge extra.

    colaboytjecolaboytje29 ngày trước
  • Haha amd go brrrrr

    CozmicPlayz GamesCozmicPlayz Games29 ngày trước
  • if exchancing the capacitors really fixes the issue, i would love to buy one of those "problem cards" for cheap and solder some new capacitors on there. Even if the pcb does not have the right component foorprint, it should be possiple with a bit of tinkering for any electrician with smd soldering experience to fix this.

    Tim MüllerTim Müller29 ngày trước
  • Long story short, manufacturers tried saving a few dimes on the production process. On a card that costs 700 dollars

    Generalx5Generalx529 ngày trước
  • I always loved the how the Nvidia founders-edition/titan/flagship cards looked. The build quality and efficiency of my old GTX 690 was amazing, and I still have that card as a display piece.

    Thomas GriffinThomas Griffin29 ngày trước
  • Top shareholders Nvidia: Vanguard group, Blackrock Top shareholders AMD: Vanguard group, Blackrock Ur money goes to the same people. /fake competition. Not saying they are bad, I have their gear for a decade+ , but the competition is somewhat fake. If one company goes worse, the investors give more to the other. You will always buy AMD or Nvidia now, and never even consider a 3rd company. This is the entire reason why they bouncing wins for the past 2 decades. The investors need both to do well, so they will always "catch up" to each other. Do you know why some people always "predict" these flaws to happen? They like to think it's because they are smart, but it's because there's nothing random about it. The thins is being gamed to stir ur emotion to get fully invested in either brand.

    Dazzy ZDazzy Z29 ngày trước
  • but still take in mind that the internal capacitor isr is smaler with "costly" capacitors but you still get les capacitance

    miha peterlemiha peterle29 ngày trước
  • As a gamer for 25+ WHO cares!! I just bought a Gigabyte Aorus Xtreme 3090 & I will NEVER Overclock it anyway as Overclocking is the MOST time wasting, pointless thing I have ever encountered! Risking stability, MUCH more chance of game crashes & annoying stuff like immersion ruining "artifacts" popping up in games all for about 5% MAX increase in performance & usually 0-1% increase? Overclocking has ONE, single use, world records & Im pretty sure 99.999% of gamers arent going to use their 30 series card to attempt world records right?? I can say at $3,439 AUD, this Gigabyte 3090 is the most overpriced ever tho.

    Virus Of CyrusVirus Of Cyrus29 ngày trước
  • So what we are saying is Nvidia are scamming it’s customers, let’s wait for the AMD series

    SimSimTháng trước
  • well.... As usual : NEVER EVER buy day one any electronic device. My PSX (playstation 1) day one : failed few hours after I bought it My first XBOX 360 : failed 5h21 minutes after I played perfect dark zero... Thank you to all guinea pigs who bought those RTX.... I'll wait few months .. and maybe buy an AMD graphical card ! Is it me, or since now 8 years ANY program, ANY video Game or ANY "up to date" hardware is launched ...unfinished ??? it's really alarming... i mean try to think about the same problem with the sell of cars , houses, etc. I know that those electronic objects are really complicate, but still......

    TheFrenchy82TheFrenchy82Tháng trước
  • yo lemme get that pc in the back pleaseee

    Vincent GunkelVincent GunkelTháng trước
  • Great information. But as far as I know, the ceramic high current SMD capacitors are extremely cheap and the PCB soldering process will not cost the factory significantly more. I would say the cost difference is

    Leo ZendoLeo ZendoTháng trước
  • Amd is my next card and cpus

    onii-chan's mankoonii-chan's mankoTháng trước
  • I seem to recall something about the previous launch, or the one before that having similar problems... Sooo... Crashvidia?

    ZijkhalZijkhalTháng trước
  • I`d just slip a bit of lead flashing in there.

    Ashley ClarkeAshley ClarkeTháng trước
  • So should I buy a 2080 laptop or wait for a 3070 laptop?

    Abhishek ParidaAbhishek ParidaTháng trước
  • Friendly reminder that all of this is still speculation with essentially 0 grounding as we dont have all the information. PS it's not poscap, it's actually SP-CAP

    WillWillTháng trước
    • @Redban loves asians Are you calling this video "proof"? Are you literally that stupid? This video shows literally 0 proof and only speculation. Where are the tests to show the difference in performance with the two capacitors? Where are the graphs and data to support this? Where is your brain? All of the above are not present in this video. It's one thing to deny evidence, and another to be gullible. Now as a disclaimer, if any new information is released I would not know, as I only know information up to the date of my previous comment. However, this does not change the fact that this video shows 0 evidence. PS All I am saying is that without proper information or confirmation, we shouldn't simply just accept and believe whatever is thrown to us. The thing that truly is mind-blowing is the people who believe stuff without evidence.

      WillWill22 ngày trước
    • "we don't have all the information" I fucking love how there's people in this world that will deny anything even when you provide video proof of the chip differences there... Mind blowing... But thanks for all the views and all the ad revenue, fuckers LMAO

      Redban loves asiansRedban loves asians22 ngày trước
  • way too much crying to watch the whole video, but i try to skim thru to see each cards inners, and there's no shot. Maybe you edited that ACTUAL INFORMATION out??? Idk why you'd bother to destroy 3000 dollars worth of GPU unless you're actually going to show what's inside. I usually run ASUS or GIGABYTE but can't see inside the gigabyte from your video ,you just show the Cheap brand that nobody ever heard of.... I wouldn't buy a 3080, 2080 probably can't even be stressed by Direct x 12 games.... maybe if they come out with a new Dev kit i'll upgrade but a 1080 is just as fast as your meme cards that overheat or crash cuz they rushed a product that nobody needed.

    ATF2099ATF2099Tháng trước
    • as much as i wanna hear you talk for 20 minutes about how you put dry ice in your underwear to keep your underwear dry . i'd rather just stay in shape and not have extra memory leaks out my butt cuz im sweaty and overloaded.

      ATF2099ATF2099Tháng trước
  • I have a 2070 Super. Got it on sale a few months ago for $150 best card I've ever had. I probably won't nupgrade for another 4 years

    TidwellTidwellTháng trước
  • 2080 also had hardware problems at launch. short memory must have a...short memory. Also laughing at the new AMD line up launch saying RIP Nvidia. Um, that hardware is also bolstered by a MB using PCIE4. does anyone ever use their brains and think anymore?..... anyway great video. I think waiting to purchase new tech and software is more reasonable, rather than buying a pre - order train wreck.

    Gene BrownGene BrownTháng trước
  • Ah, Zotac. Couldn’t have expected anything better.

    Luca PasaLuca PasaTháng trước
  • Asus constantly, going the extra mile and in this case coming up smelling of roses. Credit where credit is due.

    FinickyFinickyTháng trước
    • @JimmyKerrigan check ur voltages don’t over-overclock it’s a common mistake i believe

      KRY SKRY S5 ngày trước
    • Is that why my brand new Asus Tuf 3080 OC is crashing to black monitors several times a day???

      JimmyKerriganJimmyKerrigan5 ngày trước
    • @KRY S not a clue.

      lolliman21lolliman216 ngày trước
    • @lolliman21 yeah i onder that too isn’t asus like one of the best after market gpu makers?

      KRY SKRY S6 ngày trước
    • why do you say that?

      lolliman21lolliman216 ngày trước
  • "if that dont make sense to u, u r not coming to my birthday party" my sleepy brain: wew9gg0w9geg9wg9ew-00 WHAT?

    CubeCubeTháng trước
  • I am so bummed about this. I have been upgrading my PC and all I have left to upgrade is my GPU. I'm still running a 1060 and was planning on getting a 3080. Now I'm Not sure what GPU I want to upgrade to.

    Tim DeibertTim DeibertTháng trước
  • FE - better made, lower price AIB - worse made, higher price (and they even cut corners) wtf is this

    bighuj on da beatbighuj on da beatTháng trước
    • @Walkier On top of that, there's strict guidelines from NVidia, how OEMs can build their cards (minimum specs and such). Overall it's mismanagement on Nvidia's part, that caused these problems.

      damyr55damyr558 ngày trước
    • Nvidia fucked them on purpose by giving themselves a head start.

      WalkierWalkier10 ngày trước
    • @Sydney Salvador FE is founders edition and AIB are all the other cards

      BeastoftheEastBeastoftheEast29 ngày trước
    • What does FE and AIB stand for

      Sydney SalvadorSydney Salvador29 ngày trước
  • 1080ti is love 1080ti is life.

    stephen whitemorestephen whitemoreTháng trước
  • I take it that there is no way to Faraday cage the problems....

    SolanumtinkrSolanumtinkrTháng trước
  • so what ur saying is, the issue is all other brands are cheaping out and not using same layout as nvidia, and charging us more, and nvidia's fuck your scam firewall is working, and now we wont over pay for gpu KEK

    Dark CodeDark CodeTháng trước
  • This is a bunch of bullshit, I have a 3080 rtx and it plays games 10-15 frames per second faster, its a beast......lmao at the poeple that couldnt get one and now have to resort to making videos like this to say that grapes are sour. ahahahaha

    Bomber LemmyBomber LemmyTháng trước
  • Could you replace all 6 capacitors with the high end one and try if the card could be push to its very limit?

    SavilianaSavilianaTháng trước
  • Gtx 2080ti user : *happy noises*

    Adhwa Hazim KATERIMEIKA RIKAZIKIRIN ZulkifliAdhwa Hazim KATERIMEIKA RIKAZIKIRIN ZulkifliTháng trước
  • 2:36 You've JUST described the problem with the #metoo movement... "You'll get someone report something, then you'll get others who are just not fans of the brand like yea it's happening to me too but they don't really have the card they'yre just regurgitating things they heard..." Here's the #metoo translation: "You'll get someone file a lawsuit/accusation then you'll get others who do not like the accused saying me too, even though they're just regurgitating things they heard..." Thankfully, this is a case where the ACTUAL proof is coming out behind those claims, so no it's not a #metoo thing. This time.

    John Walker IIJohn Walker IITháng trước
  • laughs in 2080ti

    ken tuckyken tuckyTháng trước
  • This is why you wait. Retards rushing out to get the newest and greatest just to find out it's garbage. Be temperate

    N IN ITháng trước
  • we have a saying here in greece who ever is on rush will fall, so dont rush to buy something before its tested..

    stratos konstantoudakisstratos konstantoudakisTháng trước
  • HA! Imagine how the people who used bots to scalp these cards feel now

    Evan RomeuEvan RomeuTháng trước
    • pretty happy with their easy profit i'd imagine

      PingmanPingman6 ngày trước
    • theyre selling them, not using them. sooo likely great

      DJI Spark CollectionsDJI Spark Collections7 ngày trước
    • probably the same, because some idiots will still buy them

      Omnis satanica potestas, omnis incursio infernalis adversarii, omnis legio omnis congregatioOmnis satanica potestas, omnis incursio infernalis adversarii, omnis legio omnis congregatioTháng trước
  • if this is worse, wait for to 4080. it will explode.

    EXcentriXEXcentriXTháng trước
  • I got an idea. Why not put 6 of those small arrays and eliminate the cheaper caps? Would that allow even higher boost?

    Andy ChowAndy ChowTháng trước
  • On AliExpress you can get a PCIe card that cleans up power distribution in your computer using an array of filter capacitors . It might be able to stabilize your system. Normally these cards are used by audiophiles to avoid noise inside the system from affecting the sound card output.

    thecount25thecount25Tháng trước
  • Everything on launch day sucks,lol. Also,the corner for people that can't afford it is full,is there another?

    Midori-FoxMidori-FoxTháng trước
  • I’m not interested in overclocking, do I have to worry about any of this?

    Tristan BondTristan BondTháng trước
  • So the 3080 MSI Gaming X Trio is safe to buy?

    LioLioTháng trước
  • I'm looking forward to my new AMD card :)

    Tek LegionTek LegionTháng trước
  • might go amd after 15 yrs

    yourleftnut1yourleftnut1Tháng trước
  • The cheap comes as expensive at the end.

    Napoleon BlownapartNapoleon BlownapartTháng trước
  • Looking into info on the rtx 2080....now the rtx3080 is out already.....🤦‍♂️

    thai phanthai phanTháng trước
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